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COURTNEY

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12 October 2009
Robert Courtney: trebor191250@yahoo.co.uk

I am trying to establish the circumstances surrounding the death of my grandfather William Robert Courtney. He was born on 28 January 1880 and died, according to the Commonwealth War Graves Commission, on 18 December 1916. However, the web-site run by the Latter Day Saints, Family Search.org. lists his death as occuring some time in July 1916.
During the First World War he served as a greaser on HMS Armadale as a Merchant Marine Reserve. His death is recorded as that of drowning. My late father, John Andrew Courtney, (died 09/01/1987) informed me that his ship was sunk by a German U-boat having been torpedoed. However, the HMS Armadale saw little enemy action and was recommissioned after the war in 1919 and was eventually scrapped in 1936. A war memorial plaque listing the deaths of 248 identified casualties can be found located at the Wallasey (Rake Lane) Cemetery, Liverpool, near to the Cross of Sacrifice.
In addition I would like to find out the parents of William Courtney, my great, great grandfather, born about 1821 and married to Mary Symonds, who was born about 1822 (1841 census). If my research is correct I believe William's mother is Sarah Courtney. Sarah's father was John Courtney, (occupation: fellmonger), born abt. 1771 and whose wife I believe is Esther, born abt. 1772. All the above mentioned lived within the Southampton and surrounding area, principally Civil Parish of St. Marys, Southampton, Hampshire.

Reply:
I have put the Memorial details with photo in the attached PDF

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FORD

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14 December 2009
Vix Ford: vixiemypixie@googlemail.com

I am wondering if you know of any shoemakers in Romsey in 1922. The family story I'm told is that my Grandfather Albert Cambria Ford (1885-1958) became a trainee cobbler after losing his leg (a bit ironic I know!) after a nasty injury in a football match being watched by Queen Victoria as part of her Diamond Jubilee celebrations in 1897. He went on to make the wedding shoes for Lady Edwina Mountbatten. I am not sure that the Shoemakers were based in Romsey and I'm afraid I don't know their name so its a bit of a long shot. I'm just trying to find out anything I can.
Many thanks

Reply:
A substantial number of shoemakers show up in the late 19th century census returns, so it was clearly a significant occupation, though I think mostly amongst the less well-off.
I cannot trace Albert Cambria Ford in the burial records of Romsey's Botley Road cemetery, but he could have been buried in a nearby parish.
There is a Cambria House in Winchester Road, immediately to the west of the cycle shop near the Sun Arch: I have forgotten the house number. At one stage its annexe was a private school.

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GOODRIDGE

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01 October 2009
Mike Thacker: thacker100@tiscali.co.uk

I have been trying to research and find details about my maternal grandfather for about thirty years, his name was Frank Goodridge and was born at Compton Tettenhall, Staffordshire on 21 January 1889, this was a small village just outside Wolverhampton. He married Dorothy Hickman on 27 March 1910 at St Lukes Parish Church, Wolverhampton and they subsequently had four children one son and three daughters, my mother was the eldest daughter. Unfortunately at the birth of the youngest daughter my grandmother Dorothy died shortly after giving birth and the baby daughter died a few hours later. My mother was nine years of age at this time when her mother and youngest sister died. My mother and her elder brother and younger sister were looked after by Frank's adopted father, I suppose he would have been a Step Grandfather to them.
At the funeral of their mother Dorothy there appeared to be a family disagreement between Frank and his adoptive father, the consequence of this was that Frank left the children with his adoptive father to bring them up and Frank was never seen or heard of again. I have for many years searched all over the world to find references to my Grandfather Frank Goodridge but to no avail, recently I happened upon a reference to a person which might be my Grandfather Frank, I duly sent off for a copy of the death certificate and found that he had lived and died in Romsey. I then contacted the local cemeteries department at Romsey and found that he had been buried at Botley Road Cemetery. My wife and I travelled over and found his grave and indeed I do believe that this may be him. I have also found that he lived at 5 Woodley Close flats Romsey until his death in March 1976; he was survived by his second wife Dorothy Clara Annie Goodridge who sadly passed away in November 1983 and is buried with her husband Frank at Botley Road Cemetery.
The purpose of my letter is that if you would publish this and pass on to Romsey Genealogy Society I would be most interested if any readers knew Frank and his second wife whilst they lived in Romsey, or if they were related in any way to them. If they would be kind enough to contact me and enable me to fill in details about Frank who might be my grandfather that I never knew but would like to have known I would be eternally grateful. Mike Thacker 01425638314

Reply:
I have applied your letter to Romseynet Genealogy page in the hopes that someone looking there might be able to help.
In addition, this is the address of Romsey U3A genealogy; a contact address is given which you could try.
There are 20 people with the surname 'Goodridge' in the local telephone directory. They are not in Romsey itself but close enough. I could give them to you in an email if you so wished to take the plunge ringing them all! Since you have been looking for so long perhaps that might be a last resort.

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HALL

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26 June 2009
Keith Bradley: keithbradley470ctm@tiscali.co.uk

Hi. I have a long case clock by Thomas Hall of Romsey and am looking into his history. He does not appear to be particularly well documented in the various clock makers reference books even to the extent that his address is simply 'Romsey'. He operated in the latter part of the 18th C and I am aware of references to him in the Records Office which I will follow up in due course. I am therefore wondering if anyone in a local history group has any info that they could pass on to me. The clock refers to 'Romsey' under its old spelling of 'Rumsey' - does anyone know when this spelling went out of common usage?
Hope someone can help. Kind Regards - Keith Bradley

Reply:
I am forwarding your message on to the local history group, but I see there is reference to a Thomas Hall on the following page: These are the names taken from the graves at Romsey Abbey when they were moved and the Abbey could no longer support burials. Unfortunately it doesn't mention any occupation, but it might tie up with the dates for your Thomas Hall.
I believe the town name spelling was "Rumsey" at the time - there is a bit of detail about it on the following page.
Attached is a long epistle about Thomas Hall - but there are several in the list some of whom are brewers. It would also seem that one of the sons is also named Thomas Hall, unless there were more than one family of Halls at the time.
One or two items mention directly the clockmaker so hope some of this detail will be helpful.

HEAVER

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05 March 2009
Pauline Fear: pepefe21@hotmail.com

Hi, I am researching the family of Isaac Watts & Elizabeth Heaver. This Isaac was born 7 Jan 1727/8 in Romsey, his wife Elizabeth was born 17 Sep 1775 also in Romsey. Their children were:
Isaach/Isaac born 1765, died 3 March 1793 Romsey he married Rebecca Archer 9 Nov 1787 Romsey.
Elizabeth bap 19 Sep 1755.
Hannah bap 15 May 1758
Edward bap 24 Jan 1762 Romsey
Hannah 18 Aug 1764.
I believe the parents of Isaac Watts (m Elizabeth Heaver) was Edward Watts who married Elizabeth surname unknown. Can anyone help me with this?

Reply:
I am putting this enquiry under both 'H' and 'W' in this list.
Have you tried The Hampshire Record office? They keep parish records as well as other things so worth a try.

HOLT

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23 March 2009
Arthur L Thomas: holthist1602@hotmail.com

Further to the long saga of the Nicholas Holt family - See earlier genealogy entries in 2000, 2001, and 2007
Arthur Thomas has now put all the information together and you can read it here.
There are two PDFs - the original copy which he uses to formulate the second more detailed article - putting the facts or otherwise in perspective.
The original copy and The detailed article

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LAWRENCE

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10 August 2009
Merilyn Ryan: ryanmel50@primusonline.com.au

I am looking to find any info on Benjamin Lawrence born c1794 in Romsey, Hampshire. ? Parents. All help would be greatfully received. Thanks Merilyn

Reply:
Have you tried The Hampshire Record office? They keep parish records as well as other things so might be able to help.
In the meantime I have put your enquiry on my 2009 Genealogy page in case viewers can offer some information.

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NORMAN

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15 March 2009
ian norman: ian_plenty@yahoo.com.au

I would be grateful if you could put me in touch with people investigating the 'Norman' surname in the Romsey area. I am currently trying to find details for a Thomas Norman who, according to his WO discharge papers, was born in Romsey in 1786 or 1787. No next of kin information was provided and it is, I suppose, possible that the christening may have been in an adjacent parish.

Reply:
Have you tried The Hampshire Record office? They keep parish records as well as other things so might be able to help.
In the meantime I have put your enquiry on my 2009 Genealogy page in case viewers can offer some information.

NORTHCOTE

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10 March 2009
Peter Northcote: peter.northcote@tso.co.uk

I have been adding to my genealogy work for my family (Northcote). I have found an entry for a great uncle in the 1911 census, it is for an Institution called Abbey House, Romsey. Most of the occupants are listed as orphans. Is there any informaation at to what Abbey House was and how children would have ended up there?

Reply:
I have made enquiries from the local historical group and below is the reply. I will put your enquiry here in case other visitors can offer further input. Have you tried The Hampshire Record office? They keep parish records as well as other things so might be able to help.
"The children were looked after by the Sisters of La Sagesse (who now seem to have Anglicised their name and refer to themselves as 'Sisters of Wisdom"). They came from France - at the invitation of the RC Bishop of Portsmouth - when French Catholics were experiencing religious persecution. After trying to establish themselves in Andover, they came to Romsey in 1891.
Their purpose was to set up and run an orphanage for Catholic boys. It was called St Joseph's Orphanage and the boys were housed in a separate building from Abbey House (though this was probably the official address.) The orphanage continued until such institutions fell out of fashion, and instead the sisters set up La Sagesse Convent School, which only closed recently. Incidentally, the name Abbey House has wandered about a bit in that locality, but in 1911 would certainly have applied to the Sisters' house."

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PETTY

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18 February 2009
Glynis Hastings: glynny59@hotmail.com

I am researching my 15 year old daughter's ancestors and decided to include a visit to Romsey and West Wellow as some of her ancestors lived there. While in Romsey library I borrowed a copy of "Distant Views of Wellow and Plaitford" Compiled by John Dawkins and Eric Kemish.[ISBN 0-9534374-0-X]
I was amazed to discover on page 38 a photograph labelled "William Newman Petty's workshop in Gazing Lane in the 1870's. It features the said workshop with 5 men standing proud before it. I am guessing that one of the said gentlemen is the aforementioned William Newman Petty. This William is my daughter's 3x Great Grandfather! I would love to know more about the photograph and about William. Does the owner of the picture have any more information or pictures to see? Can anyone enlighten me as to which of the 5 men is William?
Thanking you in advance

Reply:
I am making enquiries on your behalf from the local History group, who I see were in the list of contributors to the book, which was published in 1998. A copy of the photo

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ROGERS

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21 November 2009
Ann Mitchell: annlouisajane@yahoo.co.uk

I am looking for George Rogers who was born about 1853, in Romsey and married Ada Paddington about 1882, probably in Southampton. George's father was also called George and his mother was Sarah Elcock

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You can get all parish records at this address: Hampshire Record office

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SHERIN

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09 September 2009
Wendy Smith: wsmith@zeuter.com

Searching for family connections to Robert SHERIN, Born circ. 1791,in Romsey. With thanks Wendy Smith Ontario Canada

Reply:
There is a Robert Sherin on the list of gravestones that were at Romsey Abbey. It states that he died in 1796 aged 40 years. Could possibly be the father of the Robert Sherin you are looking for? (The link to the list of gravestones is on the Romseynet genealogy page.
If your Robert Sherin is the son of the one mentioned on the list of graves then it is possible he would have perhaps been married or even died in Romsey. In which case the Hampshire Record office should have the appropriate records so worth a try.
I sent a query to the local Historical group who keep a list of names of the graves in the Botley cemetery, which is where burials took place after the Abbey became too full. Unfortunately there seems not to be any record there of a Robert Sherin other than the one I have already mentioned above.

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WATTS

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05 March 2009
Pauline Fear: pepefe21@hotmail.com

Hi, I am researching the family of Isaac Watts & Elizabeth Heaver. This Isaac was born 7 Jan 1727/8 in Romsey, his wife Elizabeth was born 17 Sep 1775 also in Romsey. Their children were:
Isaach/Isaac born 1765, died 3 March 1793 Romsey he married Rebecca Archer 9 Nov 1787 Romsey.
Elizabeth bap 19 Sep 1755.
Hannah bap 15 May 1758
Edward bap 24 Jan 1762 Romsey
Hannah 18 Aug 1764.
I believe the parents of Isaac Watts (m Elizabeth Heaver) was Edward Watts who married Elizabeth surname unknown. Can anyone help me with this?

Reply:
I am putting this enquiry under both 'H' and 'W' in this list
Have you tried The Hampshire Record office? They keep parish records as well as other things so worth a try.

WEBB

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18 June 2009
Kirsty Holdsworth: kirstypudney@hotmail.com

Hi, I'm trying to find out information about Frederick Charles Webb who was born in Romsey in 1889. He had four brothers and two sisters (William George, Alfred George, Walter Basil, Arthur Reginald, Ethel Winifred and Muriel).
I am particulary interested in finding where he is buried. I know that he died on 27 September 1924 in the Dukes Head, Romsey as I have a copy of his death certificate. He was the landlord there with his wife, Eleanora Grant Ross McAdam.
They had one child born in 1921 and although she is still alive she doesn't remember much about her father being so young when he died.

Reply:
Burials for Romsey people took place at Botley Road Cemetery from 1856 so I would suggest that is where you would find Frederick Webb.
I am forwarding your query on to the Lower Test Valley Archaeological Study Group who may be able to give you more details and who might have more records about him in view of his ownership of The Dukes Head. I will put your query on my genealogy page for 2009 in case anyone else can advise or might be linked to your family in some way.

Reply 2: From LTVAS
Romsey is knee-deep in Webbs and there are still some living here today. I attach the list of Webb burials in Botley Road cemetery and the obituary you have asked for.

WHEELER

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14 July 2009
Joycelyn Rosser: joyrosser@bigpond.com

I am trying to find the birthplace and parents of my WILLIAM WHEELER who in all the census from 1841 -1871 said that he was born in Romsey, Hampshire. I have never been able to find an entry for a baptism in any records of Romsey or surrounding villages.
While in Hampshire recently I found a transcript entry of a baptism of a WILLIAM WHEELER, parent LUCY, on 19th June 1785 at LONGPARISH. No Father mentioned; the word illegimate was next to the entry so I cannot say if Lucy"s name was Wheeler or not. The year is exactly his birth year. As the village of Longparish is not that far from Romsey I am left to wonder if it could be my ancestor.
Where and under which Parish would I find the baptism entries for LONGPARISH? Perhaps someone can assist me in locating some kind of records or maybe have information on this same person
Thanks for any assistance

Reply:
Below is a link to Longparish, with a link to the church, in case you see anything there which might be helpful. Longparish They might just have a list of burials there.
Also if you look at the local history group website, they do have a list of burials at Romsey Cemetery. This might also mention your relative if he died in Romsey itself rather than Longparish. Have you tried The Hampshire Record office? They keep all parish records so should be able to help.

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